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Lili Lu
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Posted - 2012.08.15 21:59:00 -
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Zarnak Wulf wrote:I lived in Null from 2007 till 2011. I ran with the muppet factory. I ran with Am0k. both before and after they joined Goons. I've done small group, large fleets, and solo. And you're whining. Stop whining. It's a done deal so adapt and enjoy the time you have left.
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Off-grid boosting is simply ********. You want those buffs? they should be on the field and at risk just like everything else that will affect the outcome. It works for both sides. No stashing a booster at a pos or at a ss running eccm.
And finally the command ships will regain their rightful place as the best boosters. The age of the T3 bubble immune cov ops warping etc booster will be over. Frankly it is taking too long, and has been here too long.
Oh yeah, preemptive "I was a low sec noob. I respond with my history so I'm an elitist snob now. Make up your mind." as well. |
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Posted - 2012.08.16 04:59:00 -
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Diesel47 wrote: Or they could just train to probe to find said fleet boosters and kill them.
But the problem of lazy and uncreative get in the way.
Yes, hold on good sir while I send my probing alt after your boosting alt then we can honorably duel. After all if I don't parlay for this opportunity to probe your booster alt I will be guilty of being lazy.
Off-grid boosting is still a ******** mechanic. It was ******** before tech III and became even more so after tech III.
I fly commands. I want them on grid. To be part of the battle. Not to become an alt account you sneak into a system and ss etc. or sit at a pos. It's more fun flying a logi anyway, but anything beats getting told to safe up and run links without seeing the battle.
As for "but they can get probed ~~" Difficult to do and anyway, so what. They are not getting shot at, neuted, bubbled, pointed or being part of the battle. Yet they are having a major impact on that battle. It is just stupid the way it has been since tech III command subsystem came into the game.
As for Nosrevibus's solution I can agree that command processors should be removed from the game. Removing the command processor will make more people train leadership and fill roles that formerly might only be filled by one ridiculous fit. That is a good thing. But I don't agree that that module is the source of the blob problem. People simply blob. They will blob with a new booster structure, i.e more booster ships within the fleet. Taking away the one uber booster ship will not end the blob.
edit- and lol at but but then you must reimburse me for training an alt to do only this off-grid boosting. the game changes. supercarriers no longer squash everything. supercarrier pilots not worthy of sp reimbursement and neither is a boosting tech III alt. |
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Posted - 2012.08.18 14:30:00 -
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Diesel47 wrote:Schalac wrote:To all the people that say to train probers to find your OGB, I say **** off. to all the people that think this will hurt CCP financially I say **** you. Off grid boosting is a sham and you will be dealt with, deal bitches. The only thing I want to come from this nerf is allow all command ships into all FW major sites. If it is a major site Tech II BC should be allowed into it. Why so emotional? " **** you " isn't a valid argument.
True. But I think though that he is referring to the folks (like you?) complaining about losing the utility of their tech III dishonor boosting alts and calling for everyone else to train maxed sp and equipment probing alts to find them 
Regardless, this whole argument is pointless anyway because CCP has now made multiple statements over multiple years that off-grid boosting is not what they want in the game and it will be dealt with. Like every other fix coming to the game it will probably take a good long while before it appears on tranquility. |
Lili Lu
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Posted - 2012.08.19 01:10:00 -
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Diesel47 wrote: E-Honor. lol.
A probing alt talks less to train for than an OGB alt, and costs less. So whats the problem besides being lazy?
And yours is a false premise. That everyone who disagrees with your desire to keep the off grid booster in the game is doing so because they are too lazy to create a probing alt. Or won't spend money to buy one or train one.
But I'm sure you will just keep on trotting out your flawed argument, it's all you've got apparently, and all you will ever have as the dreaded day draws nearer when CCP takes the tactic away from you. One with which you are incredibly attached, judging by your posting frequency on this issue, and apparently won't know what to do without. |
Lili Lu
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Posted - 2012.08.19 01:30:00 -
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Diesel47 wrote: Thats like saying is wrong for somebody to warp off because I'm too lazy to use a warp scrambler.
Everything has a counter, if OGBs bother you THAT much... learn to probe. Stop whining to CCP like some kinda miner.
Sorry, I've got nothing to whine about. CCP is finally it appears putting something they've been wanting to do on the somewhat near term to do list. I'm rather happy. You on the other hand . .
Oh, and there you go again. |
Lili Lu
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Posted - 2012.08.30 17:41:00 -
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Vytone wrote:Cearain wrote:Diesel47 wrote:Lev Arturis wrote:Off-grid boosting needs to go. We didn't need those in all the years before to fight vs. the odds. Learn to probe. Yeah, dontcha know you need a probing alt to find the other guys boosting alt in "alts online." I thought we already agreed it should be "Whine on the forums because you can't cope till ccp change the mechanics for you online." Carebear tears, best tears!
Actually the whining because you can't cope and hope CCP will change it's plans is coming from your camp. CCP has said for years they wanted to end off-grid boosting. Now that they appear to have found a solution to the coding problem and be getting serious about doing it, all of folks that have come to depend on the Tech III ss-ing booster alt are the ones throwing names around and specious arguments about how others are too "lazy" to create probing alts to try to find boosting alts. And, yes, if the other guy disagrees with my opinion he is ipso facto a carebear.
Small gang roaming and small gangs harrassing larger ones happened in eve before the tech III cruisers were in game. And it will continue after the Tech III boosting alts lose their current mode of operation. Continue to moan about the loss of this unintended mechanic, or adjust. I think you will be able to adjust. |
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Posted - 2012.11.06 19:58:00 -
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Zarnak Wulf wrote:New dev blog is out. 1) off grid boosting is going away 2) they aren't going to swap the 3% and 5% bonuses between CS and T3. They are just going to pimp slap the 5% down to 2% 
Yep. Off-grid booster alt tears incoming.
But they definitiely are going to do the right thing by leaving command bonuses at their surrent percentage and dropping the tech III to 2%. The 5% bonuses are too much for either ship. |
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